v3.0.0 beta - 24/7 recordings #721
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how can we test this version? |
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Just pull the |
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In case someone is not familiar: |
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I'm getting an error when I start the container: |
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It should be The 24/7 recordings are stored as short segments in the |
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Yes, it looks like it's storing it in the segments folder in the container volume instead of the tier 1 I specified which is in /recordings that is linked to an ext4 drive folder. It did make a frontdoor folder like the picture above. It created another recordings folder in /recordings with all the other cameras except for the frontdoor.
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The docs are unclear on this, will try to explain here before I fix the docs. Since you specified this config for your front door camera: It will override the storage component config and the path will be set to If you want to override the entire ffmpeg:
camera:
frontdoor: # This value has to be unique across all cameras
name: T-FRONTDOOR
host: 192.168.1.100
port: 8554
path: "/T-FRONTDOOR_LOW"
width: 640
height: 360
fps: 30
codec: h264
rtsp_transport: tcp
storage:
recorder:
tiers:
- path: /recordings
events:
max_age:
days: 14
continuous:
max_age:
days: 14I am away and typed this out on my phone so might have messed something up but hopefully you get the idea. Will think on how to make it a bit more intuitive as well as improve the docs |
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I think I followed your instructions correctly but I'm getting the error below. Config: Log: |
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Sorry i messed it up, should be like this: ffmpeg:
camera:
frontdoor: # This value has to be unique across all cameras
name: T-FRONTDOOR
host: 192.168.1.100
port: 8554
path: "/T-FRONTDOOR_LOW"
width: 640
height: 360
fps: 30
codec: h264
rtsp_transport: tcp
recorder:
storage:
tiers:
- path: /recordings
events:
max_age:
days: 14
continuous:
max_age:
days: 14 |
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"Recordings are now in HLS format." and "If you need to have the recordings saved as full MP4 files you can use the new config option create_event_clip". |
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There is no difference in the load on the system from how it worked previously. In v3, these segments are stored as m4s fiels (fragmented mp4s), and with The difference tho is that the fragments are kept so double the storage is used. One question, for what purpose do you want to store the full mp4 files? |
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Thanks for clarification. So basically, the mp4 fragmented files are still there and if the create_event_clip flag is set they will be combined into an mp4 as it used to be, right? I am no expert in this but I have been living with mp4 and never heard of HLS until this post. Somehow, the new HLS files must have been created from those fragmented mp4? |
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Correct!
HLS is just a protocol for streaming and vods. The main reasoning behind using it is to support the timeline with 24/7 recordings. |
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From the reading HLS default storage seems to be 6-second segments. I am just curious if that would be efficient in terms of storage space. My old practice which could be irrelevant these days is storing small fragment files would take more space than storing one large file (having the same total content). Right now I am running viseron along with another rtsp server which keeps camera feeds stored in mp4 format around the clock, each having 20 minute length (configurable). If I get a spare pc I will set up aother viseron v3 to test run. By the way, I have a few questions:
Thank you for your work. I learn new things while setting up viseron. |
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Size should not be a concern, i just checked a recording that was around 30 seconds in length. The 5 second segments are stored in the folder Image processing is not done on the segments, Viseron saves the segments to disk while simultaneously reading frames at the appropriate interval to perform image processing. |
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Trying to set up and test 24/7 recordings. For my system, it would be great to just record 24/7, no motion detection or anything, just 24/7 recording but Viseron refuses to start without having some kind of detector initialised. Any ideas? |
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Before there were 24/7 recordings there was no real use case to run without a detector, overlooked that! Until then you can just enable a motion detector with a low fps value, it wont take much resources. |
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After fixing my other issue, I wanted to weigh in here and say I don't really care about motion detection, continuous recording is the only thing I need, so +1 for this feature request. All of my motion detectors were already 1fps, so I just left them |
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This is now possible in |
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Just had a go running this on a Jetson Nano. Looks like there's some incompatibilities with Postgres with it. Basically since the Jetson image is based on bionic, the default repo only has 10+190ubuntu0.1 500 available, but Viseron is looking for Postgres 12 to run. |
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Right, I have made some unrelated changes which should fix that, builds are on the way but I have to rebuild ffmpeg, opencv etc so it will take some time before that is ready to test! |
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Just release |
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Perhaps I misunderstand the documentation on the storage component. When I have the following tiers: I would expect that the first tier would contain continuous recordings and event recordings. And when they expire (either by the max_age or max_size) they would be moved to the next tier. This is also where the confusion comes from. I don't have a second tier for continuous recordings, so I would expect them to be deleted and never moved to the second tier. But what I am seeing is that the continuous files are first moved to the second tier and then removed. This is to me at least a bit unexpected behaviour and a bit unwanted. As the second tier is on a NAS (using NFS shares), which causes a lot of network traffic. I even tried to add a second tier in between with just |
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Thanks for the feedback! |
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Before I saw that discussion I opened a corresponding issue, as the same happens with segments for events: But knowing it's not a misconfig, this is probably something that can be ironed out. |
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v3.0.0b5 is now released which addresses this issue |
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Thanks so much for building this, it's mainly what I actually will be using since there's so much motion in most of my cameras due to wind. I tried a straight swap over from :latest to :3.0.0b4 yesterday. Never got off the ground due to postgres issues, I'll post the logs here. Looks to me as though it can't find postgresql14-server. Any suggestions? |
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Seems to be an issue with Docker and Postgresql incompatibility, see this thread: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/76555305/postgres-container-failed-to-start-with-initdb-error-popen-failure-cannot-allo Can you try updating your docker version? |
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Worked! Thanks for the tip… |
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question:
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I'm trying to use the "create_event_clip" option to create mp4 videos and I cannot get it to work. I am unsure where it does in the config file, Thanks!
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If you paste your config i can help out |
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Heres what it should look like: ffmpeg:
camera:
camera_1:
name: Front
host: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
port: 554
path: /cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=0
username: admin
password: computer!
recorder:
idle_timeout: 5
create_event_clip: true
frame_timeout: 10
camera_2:
name: Front2
host: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
port: 554
path: /cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=0
username: admin
password: computer!
recorder:
idle_timeout: 5
create_event_clip: true
frame_timeout: 10
camera_3:
name: Driveway
host: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
port: 554
path: /cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=0
username: admin
password: computer!
recorder:
idle_timeout: 5
create_event_clip: true
frame_timeout: 10
darknet:
object_detector:
cameras:
camera_1:
fps: 1
scan_on_motion_only: false
labels:
- label: person
confidence: 0.75
trigger_recorder: true
- label: car
confidence: 0.75
trigger_recorder: true
camera_2:
fps: 1
scan_on_motion_only: false
labels:
- label: person
confidence: 0.75
trigger_recorder: true
- label: car
confidence: 0.75
trigger_recorder: true
camera_3:
fps: 1
scan_on_motion_only: false
labels:
- label: person
confidence: 0.75
trigger_recorder: true
- label: car
confidence: 0.75
trigger_recorder: true
nvr:
camera_1:
camera_2:
camera_3:
mqtt:
broker: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
port: 1883
storage:
recorder:
tiers:
- path: /recordings/video
events:
max_age:
days: 30
snapshots:
tiers:
- path: /recordings/pictures
max_age:
days: 30
max_size:
gb: 100 |
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I have a question regarding the storage tiers, I installed the b6 release today fixing my previous request for not moving files that are not configured on the next tier (thanks for that). I configured the first tier with the following rules:
But when I look at the actual size on disk it far exceeds the set limits: Only after I restart Viseron it appears to actually start cleaning old files, because I start to see the disk usage slowly being reduced. After about 10 minutes after the restart it dropped to 511Gb for segments (and is still dropping). Is it true that the cleanup of old files (or moving to the next tier) only occurs at startup and not when the system is running for multiple days? |
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Cleanup runs every time a file is added, but at most every 10 seconds to not waste resources. Might be a bug, will look into it |
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Do you by any chance have two cameras configured? The size limit for each tier is per camera, so if you have set 250 gb for I could have sworn i wrote this in the docs but seems i have forgotten it. |
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I think that may be it then. I have 6 cameras and thought that the limit was for all the cameras not per camera. So that explains some things. |
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Hey @roflcoopter, Just decided to do a bit of testing again and got everything up and running this time. Unfortunately, getting a wee bit of a weird view in the events page on desktop. I have attached a screenshot. Similarly, you can't select a camera if viewing on mobile:
I also cant seem to view any footage from the timeline but events work grand. Timeline just loads and loads and never displays anything. Happy to provide any logs and what not |
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I think you can do what you want by clicking the blue filter icon at the bottom right. This should popup a menu with a camera icon. You can then click that and select a camera. |
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Yes that layout does not look great. Will see if i can figure something out. If you are on iOS you need to be on at least 17.1 (https://webkit.org/blog/14735/webkit-features-in-safari-17-1/) And yes, @gjong is right, you can choose a camera using the filter icon |
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can Viseron consume go2rtc streams and if can how is that defined in the viseron config? |
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Using Go2Rtc is no problem, I have a similar setup. Go2RTC exposes both RTSP and WebRTC to your network. You will have to setup Viseron like this for that: Keep in mind that the |
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Thank you that will give me a start |
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hey, would it be possible for us to put a parameter in the storage tier's called right now the recording tiers settings on mine are ramdisk -> ssd -> hard drive |
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Yes for sure i can add that, will be in a coming beta |
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Fixed in New config option for each tier called storage:
recorder:
tiers:
- path: /ssd/tier1
check_interval:
days: 1
events:
max_age:
days: 1
continuous:
max_age:
days: 1
- path: /hdd/tier2
events:
max_age:
days: 7 |
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It's not possible currently to use a substream with gStreamer like with ffmpeg right? |
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That is correct yes! When developing i had trouble creating the correct pipeline for it since i am no expert in GStreamer, so it is possible from a technical standpoint but i would need some help getting it done i think |
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Haven't been able to get 24/7 recordings working on my setup. When I go to the timeline, I can't view anything but on the events tab, all cameras are still recording fine. I assumed that 24/7 recording stopped events from appearing as per the docs, maybe my setup is wrong. Here is a screen recording of the issue im having: My.Movie.7.mp4And also a copy of my config: |
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Just pulled Dev and still unable to view the timeline. Albeit, I am on mobile as don't have access to my laptop or developer console. Edit: not sure if this helps or if this error is even accurate as on iOS but attaching anyway Edit2: I'm pulling dev from docker hub and it seems it hasn't got the latest 3.0.0b7 yet. |
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What ios version are you on? |
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Ahh there are build issues so it is not released yet. Will report back when it is fixed |
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Edit: And |
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Hey @roflcoopter Can confirm it is now working perfectly, including iOS |
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is there a tag to get update from all docker image about beta and latest releases? |
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You could use the
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I think that "require_motion" for Coral has an issue (or I understand it wrong): I have a camera in my garage, and I have Coral configured to detect cars, but with "require_motion" on. In my understanding, this should create a recording for "car" when I enter the Garage with my car as it's moving cause I'm driving, but should stop the recording once the car stops moving. |
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You might need to tweak the sensitivity of the motion detector, im guessing it is not triggered by you driving in. |
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My motion detector is configured like this: I used mog2 before and had the same issue. |
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If you enable debug logging, do you see that motion is really detected? logger:
default_level: info
logs:
viseron.components.background_subtractor: debug |
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recordings seem to be a day out in the timestamp, events seem to be correct ie camera date and actual date is 15/06/2024 but viseron shows 2024/06/14 |
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my docker compose file |
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Yeah thats a bug for sure. Your TZ is GMT +10, so when your recording was created the GMT (or UTC) time was 2024-06-14 22:01. |
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issue is fixed on latest dev |
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The latest beta includes a fix for a similar issue on the Events page, but not for the recordings. |
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The first screen shot was b7 in red the second screen shot was the latest dev in green - will change to b8 today sometime, had a little time this morning yup recordings are not resolved as you said. |
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Seeing as 24/7 recordings can be used, how would one go about downloading a video for a specified time range? So for instance, lets say I don't have any motion detectors on but have 24/7 recording enabled. If i wanted to download the footage for a specific camera between 1am and 2am, how would I do this? The footage appears to be stored as numerous .m4s files which is great for streaming but makes it hard to download and share some recordings. Is it possible to create a download function whereby you initiate a download instead of a stream? I would put this as a feature request however I feel that it is a vital tool missing from 24/7 recordings. Previously, you could just copy mp4 clips but now, this is not possible with 24/7. |
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Yeah it cant be done from the GUI atm, can easily be done using ffmpeg tho. I will consider adding it before releasing v3.0 fully, but i would like to not get stuck in an endless loop of betas if you feel me! |
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Totally get you and that's fair enough, any chance you would have such an ffmpeg command? Main reason I ask for such a feature is because I often share clips and what not so vital for my use case. Again, thanks for all your fantastic work. |
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Sorry for the late reply! |
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You can use this URL to call the API if you want to get a playlist for a specific time period: The timestamps are UTC timestamps. |
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After upgrading to the b8 I started getting exceptions from the coral TPU component: This is causing the coral TPU to no longer be used by Viseron. |
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Seems to be a numpy dependency issue, fixing asap! |
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Fixed in |
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Issue with 3.0.0b9 (unknown if further back) -- HLS timeline view doesn't work on desktop browsers. (Current Chrome and FF on UB24.) Symptom is that it opens to a black video that is refreshing with spinner as fast as it can (browser almost non-responsive), not displaying anything. In inspect it is continuously retrieving same .m4s chunk from browser local cache, no network requests other than the first retrieval. I do not see this behavior from chrome on android. |
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Appears to be a codec issue, what video and audio codec is your source? |
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@roflcoopter If I do a ffprobe to one of the cameras, this is what I get in response: I have another camera configured that is returning: |
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The first one is hevc (h265) |
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These are just relatively cheap icsee security cameras, not aware of any way to change the encoding on them, and I believe only the single stream URL is presented if you look at them with onvif discovery. |
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I see, if you set |
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I'm getting this error every so often: My cpu usage is at max: |
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You have multiple errors in that output indicating "no space on device". Check your filesystems/etc. to make sure you're not out of blocks AND/OR inodes. (df -k; df -i) |
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This might be a solution: https://stackoverflow.com/a/56754077 That SQL is a monster so it probably needs more memory to work properly if you have lots of data. |
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Appears to be working, will continue to monitor it. CPU is still 100% because of postgres, is that normal? I have an i7-6700K CPU. On another note, last time I tried to start over, it took hours to delete all the files because there were so many. I have 8 cameras, 4 are recording 24/7, the rest are only storing events over a period of 2 weeks. find -maxdepth 1 -type d | sort | while read -r dir; do n=$(find "$dir" -type f | wc -l); printf "%4d : %s\n" $n "$dir"; done |
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What does your config look like? Your distribution of file seem a little odd, should be mostly segments but you have none |
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I have an issue that i'm not sure if it is a bug in this beta version. Here is my config: ` Thanks for this wonderful tool |
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And the output of |
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Looks good. Only thing i can think of to test is to completly remove the container (with |
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That actually works, not sure why. Thanks |
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Wow!
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Thanks for checking out Viseron!
The live view has not received much love yet, my plan is to improve that in 3.1. I plan to add UI support for these parameters so there would be toggles instead.
Easiest way is to remove it under the
Yes, using
The beta docs are on the |
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After searching, I discovered the storage documentation at: Thank you very much for your reply. |
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I would like to learn how to setup Viseron motion and object detection notifications. End services could include SMS, email, etc.. This may be where the MQTT component gets involved. I see darknet object logs for objects that do not exist [boat, zebra, clock] in my config.yaml, which has: |
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I'm getting up to speed on MQTT via the MQTT broker classes available at academy.cedalo.com. |
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For sending SMS or Email you need some other tool like Home Assistant which can listen to the MQTT messages and act accordingly.
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I got the Viseron "64-bit Linux machine with NVIDIA GPU" installed and running. [It was a difficult.] Make sure your nvidia graphics card support CUDA: I used the following information to install the "nvidia driver" into the Linux kernel and the CUDA Toolkit: https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/cloud-native/container-toolkit/latest/install-guide.html |
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Now I need to figure out how to configure Viseron to use the NVIDIA Toolkit. |
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Viseron will automatically use CUDA if it is available. |
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The log listed: viseron | ****** Checking for hardware acceleration platforms ****** I found: https://fostips.com/hardware-acceleration-video-fedora/ Still no joy after doing the above, the same log was listed. |
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I downloaded and installed cuda-samples and executed cudaQuery, which shows: deviceQuery, CUDA Driver = CUDART, CUDA Driver Version = 12.4, CUDA Runtime Version = 12.6, NumDevs = 1 I think there is a good nvidia graphics hardware, good Linux graphics driver, and a good cuda toolkit installed. |
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There might be a version mismatch between the CUDA Runtime Version 12.4 / 12.6 and what is contained in Viseron image: roflcoopter/amd64-cuda-viseron:3.0.0b10. |
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Does Viseron support ffmpeg onvif events from cameras? I setup motion detection on a smart camera, which is working, however I have not seen any Viseron logs of the events. |
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No sadly not, That is something i plan to implement in the near future tho |
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It would be useful (sharing video with others and viewing) if the short video files in /segemnts where scheduled (when configuration variable) to be collected into larger video files (size configuration variable) and placed into /recordings/<date>. Adding a "Playback" icon function to view /recordings would also be useful. |
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You can use the Not exactly what you are after but may solve some of your use cases |
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Does Viseron support De-warping? |
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If you mean something like this then no, no support for that |
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That is the desired processing. Perhaps it will be a future viseron component, |
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I'm trying to figure out how to configure 1-way and 2-way camera audio. There are 2 camera streaming components: FFmpeg and GStreamer. So far I've had difficulty finding the audio codec configuration settings. There may be considerations for selecting the camera streaming component. |
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FFmpeg has better support for audio, but there is no 2-way support in any of the components sadly |
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This is a pretty massive release that brings a number of new features and improvements.
Documentation can be found here: https://dev--viseron.netlify.app/
Features
24/7 recordings
The main feature developed here is the option of having 24/7 recordings.
With this comes a new component,
storagewhich will allow you to retain data based on time (like it is today) and based one consumed space.This allows you to use your storage to its maximum.
Storage Tiers
Another feature of the
storagecomponent aretiers.They allow you to store recordings on multiple media.
Say you have one 256GB SSD and a 1TB HDD, you can keep the most recent recordings on the SSD for fast access while offloading the older recordings to the HDD for archiving.
Documentation for the storage component can be found here: https://dev--viseron.netlify.app/components-explorer/components/storage
Timeline
To easily view 24/7 recordings, a new Timeline view is available.
It currently shows continuous recordings, motion events, detected objects.
Face recognition and License plate recognition will be available soon as well.
Events
The Events view is a more concise view than the Timeline.
Here you can scroll through and view all the Events.
Currently it shows only recordings but more events like face recognition etc is in the works.
You cannot view 24/7 recordings here.
Breaking Changes
create_event_clipmp4file extension is now forced andextensionis removedsegments_folderis removed in favor of tier pathsfilename_patterninthumbnailis removed, stored as ID of the recordingSee the #716 v3.0.0 PR for tasks left to do before final release is ready.
This discussion was created from the release v3.0.0b1 - 24/7 recordings.
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