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Tweak Notes Unavailable To Students #50

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ahughes6 opened this issue Dec 18, 2018 · 7 comments
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Tweak Notes Unavailable To Students #50

ahughes6 opened this issue Dec 18, 2018 · 7 comments
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Tweak value notes are only available to course staff. Students are unable to see them, and the column for tweaks is not available to them anywhere. The only way they will notice this is if they total up their score for the assignment and then see that the numbers do not add up to their total.

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tweaked-score

In this example there is a 5 point deduction but the student has no way of knowing why. This is also the case under the Gradebook view of the assignment:
tweaked-score-2

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Searay-330 commented Feb 4, 2019

ok i will rework this but this does mean that students will be able to see those notes so play nice

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ahughes6 commented Feb 4, 2019

I suppose an alternative would be to make an adjustment problem on the assignment to handle it there. If we took that route, I would just prefer a note next to the tweak comment along the lines of "Students cannot see this message." so at least that way we know not to write messages to the students there. Would this make more sense? It might be beneficial to have a place to make notes about student grades so maybe this is a better option.

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Searay-330 commented Feb 4, 2019

im just wary about making a private field public since there maybe sensitive info in there. i may do a private and public box.

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ahughes6 commented Feb 4, 2019

After you mention that, I think the easier fix might just be leave the note to the user that students are unable to access it, since I don't believe the box is labeled as public or private.

I can easily enough add a column to the assignment (via another problem) that I only use for tweaked values like extra credit, etc.

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that might be a problem because tweaks are not time dependent and problems are.

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ahughes6 commented Feb 4, 2019

I don't believe it changed their submission time if they had already submitted and then I added a problem that I only updated for certain students.

As far as something like early submission bonus, I don't see it as a problem if they get the bonus when they submit and it gets wiped out on later submissions. Maybe modifying this feature would be worth a larger discussion.

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Searay-330 commented Feb 4, 2019

no what i mean is late penalties will apply to your problem where as tweaks are not effected by that.

and a larger conversation maybe helpful and you professors do love meetings so its a win win

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