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JOSS paper #147

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orbeckst opened this issue Aug 9, 2018 · 20 comments
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JOSS paper #147

orbeckst opened this issue Aug 9, 2018 · 20 comments
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orbeckst commented Aug 9, 2018

Write a short software paper on GromacsWrapper for JOSS.

  • Author instructions – create a repo and then submit, ~1000 words, see examples
  • authors?
    • any contributor (name on a commit)
    • must edit and ok paper
    • willing to help with revisions (paper/code/docs)
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I'd be interested in this. I'm going to try and get coverage higher (and find any easy bugs)

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orbeckst commented Aug 12, 2018 via email

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@pslacerda @jandom @kain88-de @dotsdl @whitead @richardjgowers @ianmkenney @AndySomogyi @PicoCentauri @mohebifar – thank you for contributing to GromacsWrapper. I'd like to write a short Journal of Open Source Software paper. If you are interested in being an author on this mini-paper then please reply on this issue.

At a minimum, you will need to read the draft of the paper, make corrections if necessary, and ok it. I would also expect willingness in helping to respond to referees' requests for revisions.

I will create a repo for the paper and invite everyone who wants to be an author. Anyone who does not want to be an author will be acknowledged in the acknowledgements (unless they do not want to be mentioned at all).

The top of this issue has links to JOSS and the author instructions.

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Oliver Beckstein, DPhil * @orbeckst
https://becksteinlab.physics.asu.edu/

Associate Professor of Physics
Arizona State University
Center for Biological Physics and Department of Physics
Tempe, AZ 85287-1504
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AndySomogyi commented Aug 17, 2018 via email

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Following @AndySomogyi I would also be happy if I can contribute anything to the paper!

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Of course I want!

I'm had almost forgot about MD but in the last months I did some modelling and I very want to do more (and submit the JOSS paper).

If you have Telegram would be nice to chat there (I can create a group) and my email is the one I sign the commits.

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If you have Telegram would be nice to chat there (I can create a group) and my email is the one I sign the commits.

I think we can just use the issue tracker for discussion, then everything is in one place. Use this thread for general discussion, open new issues for anything specific and reference #147 in the new issues in order to link them back to this master issue.

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I opened PR #158 with a stub for the paper. Please add your author meta data. I assume that you can leave anything empty that you do not want to provide.

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Anyone else who wants to be an author on the paper should just announce it in this thread – there's no cut-off until it is submitted.

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jandom commented Aug 18, 2018

Yup, i'm on board!

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I'll contribute to the paper

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orbeckst commented Aug 21, 2018

@pslacerda was concerned about the suitability of a "thin wrapper" for JOSS. I stated my opinion #159 (comment) but will repeat it here as it fits better in this thread:

But first I'm worried about the acceptance criteria of JOSS for binding libraries.

I don't think that is a worry. The library enabled us to create other packages such as https://github.com/Becksteinlab/MDPOW that has been used in three papers at least. It also contains new code (e.g., in gromacs/setup.py). It is useful for constructing workflows (e.g. in https://github.com/Becksteinlab/mdworks). Only recently has there been made a serious attempt at a Gromacs Python API https://github.com/kassonlab/gmxapi , which looks great but still requires changes in the Gromacs sources. We will certainly cite gmxapi but also point out that the GromacsWrapper approach works with different versions of Gromacs, which allows version-independent scripts.

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whitead commented Aug 23, 2018

Hi, I'd be happy to help to the article and be listed as a co-author for my small contribution to the repo. I will get the requested info next week. Thanks again to all the contributors for making this useful package!

Regarding acceptance criteria, I also agree that this should pass the criteria. I've needed to cite this tool in my own work and it really enables workflows impossible with Gromacs alone, especially for high-throughput simulations and complex multi-step simulations. It also wows students in my class when we can do MD in a jupyter notebook.

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dotsdl commented Aug 24, 2018

I have limited bandwidth at the moment, but I'd be happy to contribute to the paper as much as I can. I want to function in a supporting role in building the draft, and am happy to take direction to help distribute the load.

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Am I reading this correctly that the paper should only about 1000 words?

I'm going to give the other papers there a read, and post some thoughts on how to best describe GromacsWrapper in only 1000 words.

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Am I reading this correctly that the paper should only about 1000 words?

Yes!

The reviewers will also look at documentation, try to install it, try to run a simple tutorial (that's why #159 is important), look if we have CI with tests, etc.

The review will happen on the issue tracker. If you find some of the JOSS papers under review then you'll see what typical reviewer comments are.

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I changed only a few lines of the code, and I don't really know much about the whole library's code. I also haven't even used Gromacs for over a year now. However, I would still love to help as much as I can.

I think I can proofread the drafts, but I don't believe it's fair to be listed as a co-author for such a tiny contribution!

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orbeckst commented Aug 27, 2018

I don't believe it's fair to be listed as a co-author for such a tiny contribution!

@mohebifar , my opinion for software papers is that anyone who makes a valuable contribution (i.e., something that gets merged) should be recognized and should have a shot at authorship. If you don't want the additional responsibilities (see top of the issue #147 (comment)) – and some people don't! – or if you don't want to be listed as an author then that's totally fine and we would like to acknowledge you. Either way, you should have the choice. Just let me know how to proceed:

  1. author or
  2. acknowledgements or
  3. no mention at all?

(EDIT: proof-reading is always welcome, no matter what you choose, thank you)

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Thanks @orbeckst! I definitely want to be an author!

Is there a specific deadline for submission? I have got my master's thesis back from reviewers this week, so there is a little bit of work there that hopefully I will get done by the end of this week. I think I will be able to start working on the JOSS paper next week or a week after that.

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orbeckst commented Mar 7, 2019

Sorry everyone, been occupied with other things. No firm promises on when this JOSS paper is going to happen, but will happen eventually (preferrably in 2019).

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